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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 5:37:26 GMT -5
eastimated time of arrival: Shortly before Christmas. Simply to say, I'm currently realizing a long dream of mine - an online add-on comic about Sonic the hedgehog, a pure SegaSonic add-on comic, NO fam-charas. I'm doing the art, the web-page and even script, with Sonicus Prime as my co-writer (and he's good at that.) ;D "A hero's tales" is a lot darker than the standard SegaSonic additionally it's aimed at older readers, not the "Sonic KEWL; but why isn't sOnic X, Sonic X teh ROXORS" kiddies. No, I need a good story with deep characters. And action, I love action, but the characters are more important to me. I gave Sonic an actual PAST and a REASON why he is, like he is; he even shows *gasp* character developement. I'd try to give him a soul behind that green eyes, poor Sonic is to neglected because of his attitude. Well, the story starts with Tails (a young, intelligent VIXEN) approaching Sonic on the beach, asking him for something to eat. It's a long, compex story line, (the comic is supposed to run ca. 3 years with one till two pages per week) and the script isn't written completly yet. But I only work with the characters etablished in Sonic CD, the Genesis games and the Sonic Adventure games. No fancharas. No selfinserts. No Archie characters. No Sonic X, SatAM or STC characters. So I ask you: Keeping in mind the comic's restrictions: What would you like to see in that comic? What plot points are needed in your oppionions, which areas of the thisSonic Univerrse shall be explored? You're a bunch of good writers and I value your oppinions.  Maybe you even get a sneak preview of the comic before it's release. ... Additionally I'm going to dump all my Sonic art in this thread, you surly missed some of the better drawings by me. Comment and Critiques are encouraged and even ASKED for; I want to get even better, and I need your feedback in order to do so. The fist images will occur this evening. |
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Post by John Roberts on Nov 14, 2003 6:33:16 GMT -5
Well, I don't know about being a good writer but am I happy to be able to leave some opinions for you, Chaly. First of all, I would like to see some real character conflict. Y'know, friendships endin', unreachable love. Nothing too angsty of course, but I just really get into all that kinda of drama and realism but at the same time, staying true to what the characters have always been about. I'd also like to see some good 'original' air breathed into the Sega Sonic storyline. And you saying that you have given Sonic his own past just fills me with intrige. Overall, I would just love to see some real good character developement. Because for me, that is THE most important thing that any story should contain, and unfortunatley, not too many fanfics of the same record have it. Oh, and one more thing, Tails should be a girl in this!  |
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 6:47:09 GMT -5
First of all, I would like to see some real character conflict. Y'know, friendships endin', unreachable love. Nothing too angsty of course, but I just really get into all that kinda of drama and realism but at the same time, staying true to what the characters have always been about. breaking friendship? Hm, I've never thought about that kind of conflict, I really was going for that allhappy friendship stuff. But that's a good hint, Sonic beeing like he is would stress EVERY relationship. I'm going to watch for that in the later installements. *nods* I'd also like to see some good 'original' air breathed into the Sega Sonic storyline. And you saying that you have given Sonic his own past just fills me with intrige. Well I had to. Sonic just running around and hunting robotnik for no reason isn't really realistic - everyone has a past, everyone needs a past. The past determines how you are in present. I think with Sonic's past (which actually influences his presence and decicions) brings a lot of fresh air into the SegaUniverse. But other suggestions for original themes/plots are very welcome. Overall, I would just love to see some real good character developement. Because for me, that is THE most important thing that any story should contain, and unfortunatley, not too many fanfics of the same record have it. Yeah, and most authors (fan or professional) write Sonic as if he were dead behind his eyes. It's simply annoying. I wanna change that, that's my main aim in this comic. Sonic can be a very deep and realistic character if he's written reasonably. But the most don't bother to look behind his "I'm cool" attitude, so most don't bother to ask the question ""Why does he want to be cool, free and alone?" "a hero's tale" actually tries to give a good answer to that question and fill Sonic with a live. It's a rather high aim and hopefully Sonicus Prime and me can etablish a vivid Sonic. Oh, and one more thing, Tails should be a girl in this! I think we all agree in that point.  |
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Post by Juan-Miguel on Nov 14, 2003 7:37:39 GMT -5
I have no actual experience in writing stories on impulse, so I won't be as much help here as I would like to.  -E.T.A - Shortly before Christmas : That's quite a while to do but in order to finish an issue with just a taskforce of two, 35-40 days is still not enough. Why don't you cut yourself a bit more slack and make the E.T.A. to coincide with Christmas? Let's say that it's gonna be a Christmas gift from you to the fandom. ^_^ -About the comic itself : I have nothing but praises to say about your plans of this endavour. It's refreshing to see a SegaSonic fanwork that won't be 73h shit like the flaming crap we can all find in FanFiction.net. Once more, I put a lot of emphasis on Tails being a vixen. -What plot points should I add, you may ask. I'll say that Sonic isn't an orphan without a reason, something traumatic must have happened to bastardize(Render parentless) him, and I'm guessing that it would have something to do with Robotnik or one of his relatives. What I want to be explored is the angsty side of Sonic, his thoughts, desires, inner-demons and inspirations. That's all I could say now. |
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 8:05:19 GMT -5
Simply - the Sonic FanComic convention starts at 24th and I wanna attend that one with more than one page - to get attention from the beginning on.
Well this comic shall be that what I hoped Sonic X should be. No annoying humans, no annoying but finally helpless robots, no wanna-be villian. Thanks. You dissappointed me with that one Sega. And the most SegaSonic fanfic writers dissappoint me, too.
Um, the comic will not be published issue per issue but page per page. Infact, It's not divided into issues but into story arcs of varying lenght. It's just because I should be able to finish one colored page in a week, and compiling issues at this speed would take AGES.
But I can assure you, Sonic's past is MUCH darker and stranger than get bastardized by Dr. R. That was my first thought, too, but then my sadistic side kicked in. *evil grin* I can't give you away the real plot, but Sonic would be happy if he just lost his parents because of Robotnik. Isn't it so , Prime?
Bringing up angsty stuff in a comic easily can get boring or even unintentionally hilarious, but we do our best. *nod*
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Post by Juan-Miguel on Nov 14, 2003 8:13:57 GMT -5
Your sadistic side is much more darker than mine, I could only get so sadistic as bastardizing characters. At this point, I could give nothing more about the project you are about to, or have already started to, undertake. Best of luck for both of you!  |
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 13:54:00 GMT -5
Some new artwork you don't know yet: Totally unrelated to "a hero's tale" but beautiful, nonetheless.   But this is a charactersheet directly from "a hero's tale": The first try at an EVIL Eggman. I know, I tackled the impossible. Any comments here?  the young Sonic, ca. 14 year old and still pre-puberty - the age we meet him first:  Tails, 17 year old (a beautiful vixen, neh?), Rouge and a shadow of shadow:  I make another art-topic in the general forum as soon as I scanned everything in. |
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Post by Kaotix on Nov 14, 2003 14:48:13 GMT -5
I really like that last pic. The drawing of Rouge on the left side with her head canted to side appeals to me for some reason. Maybe it's the "Wha-?" expression she has.
Oh and Tails looks cute to.
Mmmm Rouge....
You have a great nack for making your characters' expressions look so real.
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Post by John Roberts on Nov 14, 2003 16:08:10 GMT -5
My god Chaly, Sally looks simply beautifully well done. Those wings are almost a bloody turn on.  As fer your Robotnik, not too bad at all. It stays close to the style of the 'Eggman' side of him but also contains the evil and sadistic part of him that the SatAM robotnik had. Bloody great stuf! |
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 16:42:45 GMT -5
Well, I scetched that stuff for a half year now, you can blindfold me and you'd still get a decent Sonic. I just didn't bother to scan it in. But I already have a colorscheme for his uniform, but his face still bugs me. I don't like the jaw line. |
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Post by Jim Doe on Nov 14, 2003 17:05:21 GMT -5
My comments: Damn good art there as always, Lady Chal. Sonic's right arm looks a tad odd in the top picture, but past that . . . excellent!
My suggestions: The most obvious from me . . . Nack the Weasel and Mecha-Sonic! Have lots and lots and lots and lots of these two, and you will have at least one slaveringly unquestionable super-fan following the comic's every update with fevered anticipation the likes of which have never been seen. ;D
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 17:14:01 GMT -5
Mecha Sonic I'll deliver, but Nack?
I dunno about him. I honestly don't know if I need him for the current storyline, since the events in the GameGear games will never happen in "a hero's tales." If I need a bounty hunter character, sure that'll be nack, but I won't write him in on purpose.
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Post by Jim Doe on Nov 14, 2003 17:17:30 GMT -5
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Post by chalcara on Nov 14, 2003 17:20:27 GMT -5
*pets Jim's back*
See it that way, his character will not be butchered like we did with the other charas.
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Post by Jim Doe on Nov 14, 2003 17:35:11 GMT -5
Small consolation since he was only in . . . two games? Something like that, so there's not much character to butcher. But, oh, well . . . I guess I'll just have to go back to writing my Nack fanfics to get my bounty hunter fix . . .  |
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